Bust Channeling Myths

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Hey, divine leader. Welcome to this episode on author a book in months rather than years, co creating the extraordinary with the divine. And I'm here with long term divine transmissions client and our scribes of light author, Jo Ann Levitt. So happy to have you here. Jo Ann, welcome.

Thank you. It's a joy to be here with you as well.

Yeah, and welcoming everyone here. Yeah. So Joanne, I know that we have had so many co creations over the years of having the blessing of traveling together in France and doing online programs together. And, you know, one of the many things that inspires me about you and the work that we've done together, and that's also what your books are of awakening to the power of, of source and channeling. The sacred was like, for you, when you connect it in with the guides, and really co creating with the guides, it's like things just moved at the speed of light. And you're like, oh, that books done and it's published. And then there's another movement that was just like, Wow, so cool. So could you kind of fill in the blanks, because I just went to kind of the finish line of what happens when we're co creating with the divine.

Well, I'm very grateful that I remember that day, several years ago in southern France, traveling with you and a small group, and sitting on top of a mountain in a beautiful sanctuary. And having my first experience of having of channeling something of bringing, you know, to light, you know, the guides, as you had been yourself channeling and finding that I was sort of being I don't know, appointed, elected, I'm not sure how you how you would categorize categorize the divine assignment. Yeah. Honest, I meant to create something. And oh, you know, it was completely out of the domain of my knowing or, you know, what I had been doing up until then I worked as a nurse and an energy healer. And I had written but nothing of this sort. And so I didn't, it was good, because I didn't have expectations that I had to be a certain way, like, I had to take a year to, you know, work out the whole novel and the characters, I just sat down and received the transmissions, and it was the most glorious experience. And it happens very, very quickly. The words came forth, the editing happened, and and so it went. And so it went with several of these works that came in succession. So I just want to thank you and thank Thoth and the Council of light for that momentous occasion. First of all for the pilgrimage, and then second of all, for the opportunity to launch in a whole new direction in terms of channeling hmm.

Yeah, and you know, one of those kind of sub meanings of divine transmissions is like that often we have missions in transition or our missions are evolving and it sounds like in our partnering together that that was one of the emanations that really happened for you, like you've been on mission for a long time. And you know, and at the same time there was this this new direction or new additional dimensions to your to your mission that happened to also coincide is as you've done, the Divine Light activations and The Magdalene codes as well of coinciding with as well yourself as a more multi dimensional beings I know I'm starting out with like, oh, what would it be like to create a book in months rather than years and then I've just get to Well, part of that is CO creating with the Divine and and in order to co create with the divine there's also that partnership so is there anything you would speak to about your personal journey of like when you first started working with the guides because I kind of remember way back when where there was like, you know, a lot of what they speak about to have divine to divine and partnering from a place of equality and that that can be intimidating. It If we aren't really seeing ourselves as source,

good point, and that is so for me, because when I tuned into, first of all, I tuned into you, and your channeling process, after having read several of your books, you know, the Council of light, the temples of light, the tablets of light. And that I think the most stunning thing for me was the the notion of equality. Because for me, I'm here I am a seeker. And here you are, whoo, she's channeling blessed from the Divine, an angelic being. And that's the way that I perceived and I think many people do, it never occurred to me that that would be something that would come into my experience, and that I'd be able to step up to the plate to also offer or connect with the guides in a different way. Well, you know, in a way that's, that matches my temperament and, and my interests and my focus in this particular life experience.

And also your humor, because you have a lot of humor. And in that, you know, even though we may be connecting to some of the same light beings, there really is just what you said, the the synergy the coherence, our preferences and our unique individualized oneness, you know that a lot one of the as we're speaking about kind of misconceptions of channeling, and I know that, you know, your book, channeling the sacred also goes into this, it's like, everybody can do it, if you choose to the another misconception, really is that it's like, I don't know, somehow you're giving your power away to the guide, or that you have to get rid of your identity. And, and from my experience, the I don't want to say the best channels, because it's not like they're bad channels and good channels. But like, for me, at least the the ingredient of being a professional adept channel got even stronger when my unique signature energy and identity strengthened. And that is very anti intuitive than a lot of the spiritual truths that we're taught to get rid of the ego. And and some of that applies, even though I think our ego has a role on our council. So is there anything that you would just as we're kind of talking about misconceptions of channeling and, and that came in really, because I see you, you're very as you as Joanne, you're like, You're very funny, and you have this amazing wit? And your channeling also has that like where what comes through me Not that I'm not funny, but it may not be as humorous because it's just not necessarily my wiring, or what I'm up to in that way. So I don't know if that was a clear question. But I have a sense you'll

Yeah, no, no, it's interesting. And it's funny, you mentioned about humor, because I, as I have listened to different guides and channels, in addition to you, I have often noticed a quality of, if not seriousness than just focused attention to the points being made. And I used to feel that I was not acceptable in that realm. Because of my humor like that, that sent me a side that I needed to be more serious in order to, you know, make the grade, so to speak. And so it was very enlightening, to discover that the guides not only came through, but we're kind of openings, creating space for silliness to be present as well. And I think that that's so for everyone, that the guides are very eager to make space for whoever you however you are, and however you show up, because everyone has some important contribution and some different aspect of, you know, life, a different perspective, different talent, or gift that that we need. We need to you know, hear from everyone. And that was a big that was actually a big point in the very first thing that I channeled which was the 21st century gospel, you know, as told to me by by Jesus Christ. It was a stunning message, if anything that I'd ever heard, which is step up to the plate folks and write a gospel now. Write your gospel. What how can how could that possibly be?

Yeah, well, and as we're talking about humor, I mean, I have been kicked out of Temple ceremonies in school for last thing, you know? So that that, yeah, it's a really interesting point is we're talking about, you know, this is a part of the seven figure spiritual leader podcasts of, of what also really is a spiritual leader. And what are some of the paradigm shifts and I do feel like in that was one of the messages, of course, in the Council of light book was, you know, their purpose was to enhance joy, and then health and wealth and happiness from that energy of joy. And that there really is an overlay or distortion around like, oh, being spiritual equals being being serious. And yet, we see in some of the, like, Sai Baba, or we see in, you know, the Laughing Buddha or in the half hours that, that as we expand our consciousness, there really is this lightness in this play. And it really does have a role. And I do feel like that's the energy that you also scribed your books from, and you know, the tones and the guides talk a lot about that, like, what energy are we coming from, and then that gets infused into the books. And at least from the outside, it always should look like so much play and fun as your books were coming in, which I think is another kind of myth to bust. Because a lot of times it can seem like, Oh, I've got to write this book, and it has to be serious, and it's not fun at all. So is there anything about like, the the scribing, the writing process for you that you would share, like, in terms of it being fun and

joyous? You know, it just, it just evolved kind of on its own. I mean, from the time that I sat with you, and we were meditating in the church. And, and I recognize that it was not, it was not as difficult as I imagined to receive instruction or guidance. Because, and again, this goes back to the whole notion of equality, you know, that I'm not equal, you know, the guy is thrown a higher plane, and I'm here and so it's, you will never the twain will meet. Well, that was that was broken apart. It was it was clearly shown to me that the meeting is there and blessed. And it's a given, if we open to that possibility, you know, and if we, if we feel compelled to bring forth our gift, the guides seem to be compelled to join with us and, and help us bring it forth. Birth it.

Yeah, well, and there really is also the mechanisms like as that download happened, you know, sometimes I think of like, what, what's the environment that in doubt that downloads happen, or we receive guidance and kind of unpacking the, what's happening behind the scenes and you know, just this morning, I call it you know, kind of the power shower powers, like I want to often when I'm taking a shower, I'll get a download. And, you know, one of the reasons I love all the activations, like Divine Light activations, and igniting the codes of love, is that in my personal experience, my gifts also really awakened in conjunction with my getting Reiki attunements, or journeying to Egypt or there was, there was a spiritual awakening, and an activations or attunements or transmissions, that that helped, that that connection, and when I look at your experience, because you have authored books previously, and now you've scribed or channeled books, that, like that's what was happening, we were doing a divine light activation on an ancient temple of ISIS, that of course, the churches are often built on on pot on top of those sacred sites that was dedicated to Mary Magdalene, and then and then then you're off and running. So yeah, and I think that another misconception because, you know, I thought we were going to kind of talk about channeling your book in months rather than years, but it feels like what we're talking about is kind of, you know, what are some of the misconceptions around channeling and partnering, you know, with with the guides, so I think that that that was another one that I often can see is this idea of like the burning bush just comes down. And, and we can be proactive in that. Like, I'm just tenacious like I do show up, like sometimes nothing happens. Sometimes Amazing things happen. But I'm very proactive in my partnership with the guides like I'm, I'm not only waiting for for downloads, and I think that that's another another key point here.

Yes, well, you know, I often sit in meditation, I'm also proactive and wait for a download or wait for some conversation to take place. But I have also noticed that channeling doesn't necessarily happen in a formal kind of situation like that. And a lot of times, for instance, when I'm in a counseling session, and I'm focusing on a person and their issues, I will say things and I'll think, where did that come from? And I know that the guides are around in there, they're supporting the process. And I've spoken to I've spoken to a woman who doesn't believe in this channeling process, and yet she herself as a counselor, and when we have spoken, it's interesting because I can feel her channeling. Like, if I speak about a particular concern, she'll say, she'll say something to me that feels channeled. It feels like it has energy and intelligence beyond what she herself might come up with. But she doesn't believe in channeling. I think, Okay, I'm not here to try to proselytize. But I think that it happens in areas of our expertise. So my brother is an amazing creator with wooden bowls and salad bowls and some of the things that he brings forth that look to me divine, you know, divinely inspired. But I don't know that he would say that he's channeled a woodwork.

Yeah, and that's a really beautiful point, because we often have the adeptness and the Muse and seeing creations as well, whether it's music or pottery, or art or, and, and what's underneath that, like a mechanism that's underneath that. And channeling that I often see as well, is not only partnering with the guides, but having, you know, an incarnated being another bipedal and other human being, in the process in that for some individuals

is, is it becomes

not only like a great environment, where you're, you're channeling for class, I mean, I know that's how it was, for me for a lot of years was there was the Lego key I would go into my office and I would channel a book without anybody there just me and the guides. But then there was so much of and that's where the Council of light book came from, where I would offer a group and a topic and folks would come and, and that created a certain richness and, and there was this kind of receiving and gifting and having all this time, like a partnership, a play, and a focal point like you shared when you're in a counseling session, and you have a client, that it's not just you at your keyboard, there's there's the word is kind of like there's a Yeah, kind of a call and answer with the individual and a partnership, as well. Yeah.

Well, you know, I mean, you're here we are, you're in France, I'm in the Berkshire's in the States. And we're sharing back and forth in this beautiful conversation. And no one would raise an eyebrow. Okay, so we have technology that connects us. But the thing is, we also have technology that connects us. But we may need to and I certainly had to release some of my stereotypes about what is divine. And, you know, and that it's possible to really create and connect and be in partnership. That I mean, you don't see too much of that in the Bible. I haven't read other scriptures that much but I don't think Jesus talked about channeling in this particular way back then. Yeah, so

let's talk a little bit about your your books. And in particular, it feels like we've been talking about you know, channeling the sacred and then you also have awakened to the power of source. So is there any messages from the books that you would share with the community or just sharing a little bit more about about those books,

several from awakening to the power of source and one is So the fact that, in a sense, our creations are kind of waiting to be birthed. And they're, they're calling us out. And that that process becomes even more intensified. And it's there that we can, in fact meet up with and do the channeling process, when we have something that is waiting to be birthed, waiting to, to arrive. And along with that, I know we spoke about how incense we're all wired to create, it's just different modalities create different things, but we have that basic instinct, it's, it's born within us to create and to create with divine inspiration. And then there's something else that you brought into the work which I so appreciate, which I had never really thought about. And that is the fact that what we create has a consciousness of its own. That was a wake up call me What do you mean, it's not just my thought, or the thought, our thought of guides, but if it's birth, and now it's, it's out in the world, and it's, it's connecting via its own power, and it's, it's evolving as we evolve. These are things that have been like just kind of percolating in my brain. And yeah, and that

speaks to as well the, like spiritual deafness and the ideas of the Divine because, you know, there's the like, the divine expansion project that what expands the divine now is different than what used to expand the divine that we're divine we're organic, ever changing, ever evolving and, and there can be this ideas or kind of busting myths here and misconceptions of, of also the divine being fixed and done. And, you know, like that, it's not that the divine God, God is Great Spirit source, whatever nature whatever anyone connects to higher power, that is not fixed. There's very much this aliveness and this expansive energy as well as our relationships with our creations and with one another and with ourselves as the divine. So when you talk about awakening to the power of source, like what, what is what is that awakening to the power of source?

Well, it's awakening to, you know, in a sense, who we are at source, what it is, that lights us up, what it is, that keeps wanting to grow and expand and move forward. So it is awakening to the power sources awakening to the god goddess, that's within each one of us. And that we share, you know, again, this notion of equality that we share on equal terms with the divine, it's just, we happen to be in physical bodies were incarnated and the divine beings that support us and play with us and interact are in the light, but we are also made of light. I remember reading somewhere that where we're little pockets of light, and we keep expanding and and bringing in more light. And I love that notion. So to me, that's, that's, it's getting to know the ground of who we are the basis the heart of our experience, and then moving out with that and entering even into a deeper connection and greater creativity with the source which is what connects us all.

Yeah, yeah. And we'll put the the book links to the book on Amazon in the show notes here the books there really is that you know, awakening to the power of source and that it's a guidebook to co creating with the divine. And, you know, that's often something that I've, I've, I've really been like Okay, where was the manual you know, like, and that's also why we're so passionate I feel like have a really for so long, just being very visible around having an in depth intimate partnership with guides like my business partner is Thoth Toth Tehuti and, and I know that that seems crazy for some individuals and yet, it's also just really being visible with it like I'm, I'm married, I have a business like I'm grounded I'm in the world. And my business partner is as a guide, and so, yeah, I feel like your book also really provides that guide of how I'm we're co creating with the divine, there also is the capacity to co create the extraordinary, which I think you also embody. Your books came in in extraordinary ways aswell.

And there's also the the importance of choice conscious choice, which you've spoken about in your works. And I too, have brought that in. Because if, if we're stepping up to the plate, and we want to connect with the guides, and we have the expectation that it can happen, we can make a conscious choice. And play with that and let that kind of that message goes out to the universe. And then then we can channel we can bring in whatever guides are meant to work with us and choose.

Yeah, yeah. Well, and that's reminding me that there, there was actually some contributions from me in and involve the books and books, and then channeling the sacred, or channeling the channeling the sacred. Yeah, channeling the sacred book was also where you had contributions from other other authors. And I really feel like that's such a beautiful compilation as well of your perspective, the guy's perspective, but then also bringing in other adapts perspective. So is there anything for someone that may be going on? Do I want to pick up channeling the sacred? Is there anything you'd add about that book?

Well, it presents different approaches. And, you know, I've learned from so many people who are channeling, and I've learned that there is no one particular way to do so. But that, for instance, my friend, Marty Benjamin, who's an acupuncturist channel's in a whole different way, but he's just extraordinary when he meets with you, and he even needs to find out what's going on physically. You know, he takes your poses, but he also asked the guides to do a reading. So, you know, like I say, there's just, well, they say, there's 50 ways to leave your lover, there's got to be 50,000 ways to channel your book, or whatever you want to bring forth. It doesn't have to be a book. But

yeah, so as we're wrapping up here, for those of you that are called, I'd invite you to check out Joanne's book, books in the Amazon links that we'll have in the show notes here. And any messages that you want to share for this community,

I would say, take a chance. Take a chance. Now I'm, I'm I'm envisioning a movie. And there's a great song that was sung. Take a chance on me take a chance on me. It was about a little love affair. But I think it's like take a chance. That's what I did the first time around, stepping into the unknown of what it is to create this kind of divine partnership. But what amazing things come and how much growth and new awareness. You know, I feel like my consciousness has so spread out from those first meetings. And then from the work that I did that. It's like it really does convey the idea of anything's possible. In terms of our creation. Anything's possible. Well, I

know we could talk forever that feels like a great high note to wrap up on. Thank you, Joanne, so much for being here on the podcast and also for our partnering over the years. Such a blessing. I'm so honored and blessed to have also as a part of Thoth and mais scribes of light press, you're a few of your books, at least published in there and thanks. Alright, bye for now.